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Mastering Productivity and Sales Through Personalized Organization: Insights from Dr. Lyman Montgomery

Lyman Montgomery, PhD and Anne Scottlin

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Have you ever stumbled through piles on your desk searching for that one elusive paper, or felt a surge of anxiety when confronted with a cluttered inbox? This week, Dr. Lyman Montgomery joins me to dissect the fascinating interplay between the chaotic 'messy piler' and the serene neat freak that resides within many of us. Our conversation delves into the concept of MetaMindstream and its potential to revolutionize our self-imposed mental boundaries, fostering greater productivity and sales through the power of organization.

Our dialogue takes an intimate turn as I recount my own battles and triumphs with organization, resonating with personalities across the spectrum—from the color-coded filers to the chaotic pilers, the meticulous binders, and the snapshot-taking photographers. We shine a light on how embracing our inherent organizing styles can help us navigate both physical and digital clutter, simplifying tasks and diminishing stress. Moreover, we extend an invitation to explore the five persona architecture personality assessment on focusmetamindset.com, revealing insights into how understanding your persona contributes to harmonious team dynamics and business success.

As we wrap up this thought-provoking session, we impart practical business strategies and discuss the intriguing application of neuroscience in enhancing not just profitability but also personal fulfillment. Sharing our gratitude for Dr. Montgomery's insights, we encourage our listeners to join us in these enlightening discussions and stay tuned for more empowering tips in our upcoming live streams. Don't miss out on these transformative strategies that could reshape your personal and professional landscapes for the better.

Speaker 1:

and, and the thing is, I still want to be you but I have like this split personality, right? I mean, I don't know, jekyll hide, you pick it. Whatever it is, because I said earlier in the show today, I have this messy piler personality because I never have enough time and then, but at the same time I hate working in my office or in my house If things aren't neat. I feel anxious and agitated all the time. So it's a really juxtaposition. And how do I find the balance between my own two personalities I think I'm the messy person and the neat person is very confusing.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Welcome. Welcome back to MetaMindstream. I'm here my name is Anne Scotland with Dr Lyman Montgomery. Hello Lyman.

Speaker 3:

Hello, it's always a pleasure, Anne.

Speaker 1:

Always, always, so excited about this show today and some of the fun things we're going to be talking about. Metamindstream is a show about disrupting what's possible, and when we first chose that subtitle, we had a long conversation you and I about whether that was positive or negative.

Speaker 1:

Yes and we went with. It's not that it makes things impossible, it's what makes things possible in your mind. So we all have limited by our own mind what we see as possible in life. Let's disrupt that. Let's take our business to the next level. Our company Focus Meta Mindset is all about profitability simplified, and we do that by combining the principles of positive neuroscience with actionable business strategies. Right Lyman.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you know it's all about how do we get things done. At the end of the day, hit the bottom line.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and that's why I love what I love so much about today's topic. Because the question is for today what is the easiest step to maximize productivity and sales? What is the easiest step? Everybody always wants to know what is the easiest thing I can do for the greatest return. So we're going to be talking about that in our business segment today. So let's just jump right to it. When we talk about what is the easy way to maximize productivity in sales, you're going to talk a lot today about being organized, Is that right?

Speaker 3:

You know the principle the foundation is organization. Let me ask you this question, ann have you ever dealt with someone? Or you ask them for something? They're like is there somewhere? I just had it and they're shuffling papers and they're, you know, basically looks like it's a tournament to hit their office and they're unable to put their finger on a document that they just had because they didn't have a good organizational system. And so today in that segment, in the segment on business, we'll talk about five organizational type personalities, and this is also good because it ties into our assessment.

Speaker 1:

Ooh, yes, yay, so excited to bring that into it. And then also ties into meta mindset around when we talk about being organized and the work that takes. Also, how do we deal with overwhelm, or what I call the overwhelm fantasy? You're a busy person and I'm a crazy busy person and my feet are only on the ground half the time because the rest of them in a plane. So we can all give way, if we're not careful in our business, to overwhelm fantasy.

Speaker 1:

So we can talk a little bit more about that as well, but before we do that we just want to thank you all for being here with us today on Metta Mindstream. Do us a great favor and send this link to someone who would enjoy our chat and also like and subscribe on whatever platform you're watching us on or listening to us on today. We would be super grateful for that. We're going to go into our business section of actionable steps and then we'll follow that with some life and lifestyle conversation about the same thing. We always have a good time. We have to take a really quick commercial break, so hold that thought and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to Focused Meta Mindstream. I'm Anne Scotland here with the Dr Lyman, montgomery Lyman. Today we are talking about what is the easiest step to maximize productivity and sales, and we're going to have some actionable steps that you're going to share with us.

Speaker 3:

Yes, yes, organization, organization, organization. It is the number one step that any person can take and it's the easiest step to take. Now, it's based on what we call five personality types. For example, we're going to talk about maybe three, get to four of them, but there's actually seven of them, but we deal with three to five of them, depending on how much time we have. So the first one is a filer. This is a person that they love their color-coded folders, right? So they got a blue one, they got red, green, fuchsia I know this person Outside of the boring manila folders, right. So they love putting things in file folders. So they're called filers and for them it's about keeping a file. They put nice little. They even got label makers, okay, and they love those files and they color code things. They don't have to think about it and it works for them.

Speaker 1:

The second type of personality oh, I got to go back. I got to just go back before we move on because label makers. One of my favorite episodes on the Big Bang Theory is when Sheldon has his label maker and he's going around labeling everybody's stuff. Has his label maker and he's going around labeling everybody's stuff, so I think he would be considered a labeler.

Speaker 3:

Yes, it's amazing because I actually purchased me one of those real fancy label makers and I put labels on everything.

Speaker 1:

So I'm laughing because I can relate to that episode and I just saw that yellow file folder go flying across the screen to that episode and I just saw that yellow file folder go flying across the screen.

Speaker 3:

The second type of person is what you call a power. These are the individuals that they got piles of paper everywhere on their desk. They say don't touch it, I know where everything is at. I think, so, uh-oh, I do know. Uh-oh, did I hit a nerve?

Speaker 1:

Ann, this is my weakness. I'm a piler because I can't stand the inaction of sorting. So yeah, anyway, yeah.

Speaker 3:

And so then, the third type is what we call binders. Okay, binders are the ones that they love putting things in a binder. They will invest hundreds of dollars in binders and sheet protectors because they love books and they have them. You know they got a binder for the last 10 years of taxes finances, so they can pull it out and is it a nice binder.

Speaker 1:

And it tells them everything that they need, but you can't really see it. But anyhow, there we go, yes, and so I'm kind of like stuck between a filer and a binder and a binder I've tried binders. It clearly isn't my favorite type, um, but I would say I have a little bit of affinity towards binders, but not literal ones, virtual ones, which is file folders on the computer or on, say, google Docs. Right, so it can be very effective. My only problem is I'll create so many layers of folders that I can't find anything.

Speaker 3:

Right, right, and that's perfect because it leads us to the third type of person, which are boxers. These are individuals that is in the box. You know, they got shoe boxes, they got decorative boxes and they got all those plastic bins everywhere. Yeah, plastic bins exactly stacked up, and they just put it in the box. But that works for them because they can take the boxes, they can store them in the closet, but then, as long as they have a label on them, they know exactly what's in the box. And then you have those. We get a little bit more high tech and these are what you call your photographers. You ever notice? You go to a conference and the person says, well, I'm not going to take notes, they just pull out their phone and take a snapshot of the screen. I call those photographers because they want to be able to go back and review the pictures and it works for them.

Speaker 1:

So again, I can be a little bit of a photographer. So here's why, though because for some reading, some reason, against all the efforts of my, my homeschool teacher in elementary, I have the most terrible penmanship of anyone you have literally ever met. I cannot even read my own handwriting. The other problem with my but I'm an obsessive note taker the other problem with that is that I am very slow writer, so if. I'm in a conference or a lecture, I get frustrated really fast, and so I've now resorted to being a photographer.

Speaker 3:

I was getting ready to say. Now, next to the photographer, is the recorder. The recorder is the person that uses his or her or their device to record everything they see in note memos. They might purchase a transcribing services so they can literally you know a text or speak to text type software. The reason this is important organization is notice, we got to get away from this one size fit all mentality. No, it's based on your personality. If you are a piler, all I say is combine the piler with the boxer, all right. So let's get you some nice decorative boxes, let's also get a label maker. Put a label on there and maybe you just put like bills in one box, maybe you put something else so you can segment your box is still organization.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I have an objection for the box, so I've tried this. I have had all those desk trays. I have had different boxes on my desk with different labels on them. What's funny is I hate clutter, even though I'm a pilot, but my personality is most happy when it's neat. However, if I get a bill in the mail which I've tried to make them all virtual now, but there's still a few, if I get a bill in the mail which I've tried to make them all virtual now, but there's still a few things that come, something comes through in the mail. I put it in the pile because I'm very visual and I have to see it If.

Speaker 1:

I put it in anything with a lid, I will completely forget by this evening that I have a bill I have to have. So my challenge with boxing has been like I will never open the box.

Speaker 3:

So here's the key. Here's the key. Remember, you have to merge certain things. So what you would do is you get a file and you stack it in the box and you agree, I only put the lid on the box when things are done. And now I put the lid so I can store the box away, so you keep the lid off the box, which again is a great metaphor for metamindset, going beyond. So, rather than putting the lid and saying it's done, you don't put a lid on it. So you might, for example, you might say okay, how do I organize the box? Okay, and that's where you spend time. If you are a true boxer, you figure out a way. If I need to retrieve something quickly, how can I retrieve it in the box? And I would say to you is figuring out a way that you can keep your box, keep your piles right. Another okay, I gotta jump in, though I gotta jump in okay.

Speaker 1:

So the other thing I'm just gonna be your um devil's advocate and do all the objections today um is. The other thing is time and energy, and we're gonna get more to that in a minute. And how. How do you stay organized but also monitor your time and energy output?

Speaker 3:

Absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So here's the thing. So whenever I have created files or boxes or binders, I have a very strong from both parents OCD in me. So here's what happens I'm either a piler or I'm a boxer. And when I'm a boxer I'm either a boxer or I could spend three days organizing things alphabetically by the tabs, and then I go back through and I organize them by date in each folder and then I go back and eventually I'm like I got to stop. I don't have time to be organized.

Speaker 3:

Here's a suggestion All right For powers, let's do it with the boxes. You're not a boxer, all right. So I'm going to heal you of that. You're healed. You are not a boxer. Boxer doesn't work. You've tried it. It doesn't work. It creates more of a headache. What I'm going to suggest? That you mirror your pile with sticky notes and you create tabs and you put the date or whatever it is so when you're piling. So now you just look at the, so you keep the piles there, and now you're just thumbing through the sticky notes and you can say, oh, and then you can pull out what you need and keep your piles and put it back.

Speaker 1:

I love that, I absolutely love that, and I'm going to do that because that really does help my two personalities of being a piler I'll call it a piler and a filer, which is similar to the boxes, right? So if I have a pile of files, that's still close to a box pile of files. But yeah, the sticky note, I think with dates, sort of like deadlines, that could be very useful.

Speaker 1:

And then the other thing that I'm trying to implement in my life is and this is less about being environmentally friendly, which I'd love to claim. That's why. But as to getting as close to paper free as I can, because I travel so much so, since my business is always on the road, I can't really have that many paper files that I'm relying on, so I'm trying to nail it down to like this one.

Speaker 1:

I have this one notepad in this leather binder and a few pockets, and everything else has to go in my filing system virtually or digitally.

Speaker 3:

So now we talk about number six I said there were seven and that's a scanner. This is where you now, and they have great apps where you can actually take a picture of something and it will create a PDF of that photo, ok, and you can create electronic files. And so what a lot of times what I recommend clients that really love their piles of paper is scan it, take a picture of it, all right, have it on your phone. But they have this apocalyptic feeling that if the computers took over, they wouldn't be able to find grandma's recipe and they don't trust the crowd.

Speaker 1:

Well, I would say, at that point you've got much bigger problems to worry about.

Speaker 3:

The grandma's recipe Exactly. But you know we're laughing, but it's true. I've had people contact me and they're like you know, lyma, this is great, but I got to have that piece of paper. It's not real if I can't touch it.

Speaker 5:

You know people like that hand.

Speaker 1:

It's like if they can't put their fingers on it.

Speaker 3:

It really isn't real to them.

Speaker 1:

My bless her heart, mama is that way. If bless her heart, mama is that way. If she can't wait, she she always. If she needs to reimburse us for something or we're paying for some service and she's chipping in because you know she's paying for her phone but she's under our plan. You know, whatever paper checks in those little tiny envelopes which I'm like I almost lose them when I'm still in the post office. They're just these tiny little grandma envelopes. Like nobody uses those old letter envelopes anymore, I'm like mom.

Speaker 1:

Let me introduce you to PayPal, Let me introduce you to Venmo. Let me introduce you to Zelle. Nope, I like checks. I've been doing checks since I was 14 years old and I'll do them till the day I die. Absolutely no, mom I and I'll do them till the day I die. Absolutely no, mom I got to put your freaking check in a pile on my desk and I'm trying to stop it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and here's the beautiful thing about all this, anne, is what works for you, and that's the beauty of a meta mindset. It's not about what will work for the majority of people, it's about the individual. How does it feel to you? Are you in alignment? If what I'm saying you know, let us know. You know we talk about signature there's actually seven, but we talked about six of the type of filing or organizing personality types, which segues nicely into. We have five personality type assessment called the five persona architecture. And if you go to our website at excuse me, if you go to our website at focusmetamindsetcom, and there's a tab there for assessment focusmetamindsetcom and there's a tab there for assessment, you can take, it's free and you can find out what your persona type is, especially if you're in a team, and it's great if you own a business or you work with teams. But they can also take the assessment in and figure out you know what's their persona. You know, maybe they're a chess player, maybe they're a construction worker.

Speaker 1:

Right and I love. I love the categories we've created, and this is just a little different from many of the other assessments. Yes, the tests that you may have been swamped with over the years, because, as everything with MetaMindset, it's much more intentional. So, if it's a team, it's assigning roles in the team based on the personality.

Speaker 1:

If you're an entrepreneur or a small business that's just starting out, or a team or a company that's just starting out, or a new group, it's about building the team by specifically recruiting those types that fit the whole. So these five personalities that will fit the whole, with intention, cause we always talk about there's always needs to be, you know, the number keeper there always has to be the cheerleader. There always has to be the who's our objector.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you gotta have the commander.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you got someone who's always you know the person, who, you know exactly who this person is, who's always like, yeah, but that won't work because, and that won't work because, and that they're really critical to the team, absolutely. Because if we're all, cheerleaders Right and you got to have a chemist.

Speaker 3:

You know I'm a chemist. You know I'm always cooking up something in the lab. You know, how do we make this better? Right, yes, but then you need the construction. Worker says, okay, let's take it out the lab, let's pilot this thing and let's build something. But it's also nice to have the chess player. My wife is a chess player. This is the person's highly analytical. They're always three or four moves ahead. You know my wife. We have a conversation and she's like honey, catch up. I'm on. I'm three conversations down the road. I'm still on the first one I thought we were talking about about lamb steaks, and she moved on completely on something else already.

Speaker 1:

No, it's so true. It's so true, and so any of you that are watching or listening here definitely jump on the website and take this free assessment. It's fun. And, again, our website URL is focused with a D focusedmetamindsetcom. And we're talking today about the easiest steps to maximize productivity and sales. What is the easiest step? And it is getting organized. And before our break, I just want to throw in one other comment. Before I break, I just want to throw in one other comment, which is when you're getting organized, if you are done the Pomodoro method or any other number like work and timekeeping management methods that's a 20 minute segments, right, you're like, okay, every day at this time I'm going to spend 20 minutes working on my piles, right, and energy. If you have a really big thing to get organized and your time is better used making sales, then maybe you hire someone. There are people who this is their dream in life Come in and organize your mess.

Speaker 1:

They will literally be in bliss the whole time. It's worth every cent. So hire someone. If the energy output is not equitable to how you use your time to make money, then get help with it also. And then the thing I touched on earlier, which is watching out for that overwhelmed fantasy.

Speaker 1:

A lot of us don't get started because we think we'll be so overwhelmed and it's taking that small bite size steps. I literally use a timer on almost a daily basis, and sometimes many times a day, because it gets me started. I am one of those people that, once I started, try to stop me. You know you send my emails at 2 am in the morning.

Speaker 1:

But getting started, I get this overwhelmed fantasy like, oh yeah, but I have all this and I have this and I have this and this. I get this overwhelmed fantasy like, oh yeah, but I have all this and I have this and that, this and this. Okay, setting my freaking alarm for 20 minutes and I'm going to work on this for 20 minutes after that. If I do nothing else on it, that's fine, but today I'm doing this, so find tools and techniques to really help you maximize your time and energy. All right, we have to run out for a quick break. As always, time is flying because we're having so much fun, so stay tuned. We're going to jump into our Meta Mindset Lifestyle segment next and talk about messy people versus neat people how to find a balance.

Speaker 1:

So stay tuned, we'll be right back.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome back to MetaMindstream. I'm Anne Scotland here with my partner, Dr Lyman Montgomery, and today, on Focus Meta Mindstream, we are talking about the Meta Mindset and how we use it to maximize our productivity and sales. We've talked about what is the easiest step the easiest step if you could only take one to maximize productivity and sales in your business. It really is organization and we've talked about all of that in our business segment and now it's going to leak over into our MetaMindset lifestyle segment, which is messy people versus neat people, finding the balance. Lyman, do you know any couples like this?

Speaker 3:

balance. Lyman, do you know any couples like this? I hate to admit it, probably too many couples that one is messier than the other. I think, if I look at I just use myself as an example right, my wife will tell you that I'm probably OCD when it comes to neatness and organization. I'm the type of person you open up our linen closet. All the sheets, all the towels are folded exactly the same way. They got those nice little fold their color cord, little fold, their color cord.

Speaker 3:

You know, before I got married, my wife would come. We were engaged, she would come and visit and I had my Kangas organized. You know as she looked at me and she was like, should I be concerned? Is this an expectation you're going to have of me? You know the laundry the same way. You know I have a certain way. Now, does that mean that my wife is messy? No, not at all. It just simply means that in my mind I have a certain way that I like things to be done, and so the compromise in our relationship is I do the laundry, I do the dishes and she does the cooking, and you know. So that way we don't have to have a unproductive conversation like well, honey, how come you didn't fold my pants this way or the sweater this way? So I'm probably that neat freak.

Speaker 1:

And the thing is I still want to be you but I have like the split personality, right. I mean, I don't know Jekyll Hyde, you pick it. Whatever it is. Because, as I said earlier in the show today, I have this messy piler personality because I never have enough time and then, but at the same time, I hate working in my office or in my house If things aren't neat. I feel anxious and agitated all the time. So it's a really juxtaposition. And how do I find in any other group where you have tasks, there's always that messy person and the neat person. I know, you know, we've been, we've worked on a lot of retreats together and.

Speaker 1:

I've worked on a lot independently, as I'm sure you have as well, and one of the challenges is always like the order of the day, Because it always seems that whoever the person is like the guest speaker is someone who demands that there be massive flexibility. Right, but then there's the timekeeper, the coordinator, who everyone in the group at the resort is coming to say what time does this start? What time does that start?

Speaker 2:

When will we have done this?

Speaker 1:

I have to make phone call and it's like, because you have kind of the messy time people and the neat time people, I think that's a great example of yeah.

Speaker 3:

Another example is thinking. You have some people that have messy thinking versus those that are very methodical, very neat, very concise in how they're able to get an ideal out and give a good example. You know, we work with a client that was having major issues with the distributor right and it was becoming very messy and it was starting to affect her and she started, you know, having a messy mindset and we had to, of course, correct her to get back into. No, there are other distributors out there. Let's take time, you know. Let's explore different avenues rather than being married to this one that was just messy. I was treating her wrong, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

And this goes back again. This goes back again to the assessment.

Speaker 1:

I loved your illustration, though, of messy thinkers and neat thinkers how we. You know, people who are very scientific and mathematical and that everything is very structured and organized, even in the way they think. My father was an aerospace engineer and he is just like that. I mean, it's hard to talk to him because there's so much dead time, because he forms these complete well, and I never stopped talking. So it's a challenge. He. He needs dead time to form these complete and very meticulous sentences before he speaks them. It makes me almost crazy, but that's how he thinks he's like speaking is pointless unless it has purpose, meaning intention.

Speaker 1:

The sentence structure is organized, so there's kind of that example of extremes. But also the people you need assessment wise, personality wise, on your team, cause you need people who are taking care of the books and the paperwork, who are very structured. And then you also need people who think super outside the box, which is not usually the accountant personality and not as often who you know are either, you know, the con construction worker, we call them, or the chess player, or both, where it's like grabbing ideas and pulling things together. It's just like you know those those old talk show things. When I was a kid they had like the money going around and spinning thing and you're like grabbing money.

Speaker 1:

Um, it's kind of like that. It's like, oh well, this doesn't even anything to do with product for selling, but what if that might work? Or what if this could be? What if this, what if this way of doing things for this other, completely different industry was overlaid onto our industry? Could we make that outside If you had all of the dreamers, the, the people who are like ideas, ideas, ideas, but they didn't have the follow through, the team members who organized or keeping the books? This is where a lot of entrepreneurs suffer, because they tend to often be more one or the other. So you have you know not to be rude, but you have sort of the pie in the sky entrepreneur who literally, literally has a million ideas but they can never follow through or stay structured or make money because they don't have the organizational skills.

Speaker 1:

So they need to be into their team that personality, even that doesn't happen to be a full-time employee. Everyone that can literally be a subcontractor. It could be. There's so many ways to do it. It could be their spouse, who knows, and vice versa. If someone's an entrepreneur, but all they do is very methodical, they're probably not trying new and different ways to expand their product and service and make it more attractive to the public. So again if you guys jump into our free assessment online. You'll have a lot of fun with it.

Speaker 3:

And sometimes, going back to the assessment, the construction worker the construction worker will get messy. Have you ever seen those remodeling shows? Before you get the final product? It looks like a tornado hit because they're they got to bring in a demolition crew. You know, wires are everywhere, debris is everywhere, and but in their mind they're like, oh, this is where we're gonna have the, the swimming pool, we're gonna have, uh, the, the wet bar over here, and all you're seeing is a pile of debris. But they're able to say, I know it looks like a mess now, but this is what it can be. And so that's why, a lot of times, when we deal with clients that have messy thinking, we become that construction worker of saying, yeah, you're messy right now, your language is messy, but, boy, I see you said something. And all we need is that spark. And then we begin to build upon that. And I think that's where again and you have mastered this of looking at particularly women that feel that their lives are messy, and you're like no, they're not messy, it's a mosaic.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's great, we're creating art here. Yes, absolutely, yes, absolutely. And you can bring all the different elements of your life together to create something unique, and that's why we all bring such a unique aspect to our position, in our community, in our corporation, in our entrepreneurial service or product, because you are a total of all your parts. You're a total of all your experiences, all of your practice, all of your training, of your personality, of everything which actually makes life a whole lot more exciting than just everybody being cookie cutters. I'm so against that. As you know, I spent the first portion of my life in that environment and I am so done.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I have a friend often says stick a fork in me, I'm done.

Speaker 1:

I absolutely love that. Well, we're gonna have to wrap up already, I hate to say, because we're having such a good time. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

But, we hope you all enjoyed today's episode about disrupting what's possible and, in particular, with finding the balance, finding organization in your business and in your life. We would love to hear your stories, your suggestions of topics, your response to our episodes. So please shoot us an email that our email has been streaming here, or you can find it in the notes, or pop over to our website, focused with the D metamindsetcom, and you can message us directly from there. We'd absolutely love to hear from you. Our fans and clients are the people we have the most fun with in the world, and you can tell we already have fun, so the more the merrier.

Speaker 1:

Bring it on. We would love to have your questions and comments, and please do share the link today with someone who might enjoy our chats, benefit from these business tips and what we're teaching around neuroscience to help you be more profitable but also be happier. So thank you, lyman, it's been so much fun today.

Speaker 5:

Thank you for all your amazing insights as always as well.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. Everyone join us next week streaming on Tuesdays. We'll see you then. Bye.

Speaker 3:

Bye-bye, take care.

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